210. No Loss is “Too Small to Mourn” with Chaya Hott, Talia Mizrahi, M.S., and Shirel Korobkin
In this episode, Dr. Baron sits down with Chaya Hott, Talia Mizrahi, M.S., and Shirel Korobkin, grief educators and support group leaders to discuss the nuances and differences between various types of fertility and pregnancy losses. The conversation explores how all reproductive pain is deeply valid without turning grief into a competition.
Chaya Hott, Talia Mizrahi, M.S., and Shirel Korobkin share their own personal journeys through trauma and grief, including lived experiences with stillbirth, miscarriage, circumstantial infertility and the power of a support network. They open up about the unique challenges tied to different milestones of loss, from the isolation of an unacknowledged early miscarriage to the devastating public reality of a late-stage stillbirth.
Together, they emphasize the importance of talking about pain instead of hiding it, and how finding a community allows you to grieve exactly as you are.
Whether you’re grieving right now, healing from a past loss, or supporting someone else through theirs, this episode is for you.
About Chaya Hott:
Chaya Hott is a Certified Grief Educator, trained by renowned expert David Kessler, and a Certified Trauma Coach through Daniel Schonbuch at the Torah Psychology School for Coaching and Counseling. She is also the founder of Jewish Grief Groups supporting bereaved women after the loss of a loved one.
Chaya’s mission is deeply personal. During the COVID-19 pandemic, she endured the stillbirth of her baby boy, followed by a miscarriage, after a decade of circumstantial infertility. In her darkest moments, Chaya felt lost and alone—until she found the support of IWSTHAB, which carried her through her losses and a subsequent pregnancy with her rainbow baby. Inspired by the lifeline she received, Chaya now helps other women navigate the complexities of grief with compassion and understanding.
Chaya lives in Pomona, NY, with her husband, three children, and one forever in her heart.
About Talia Mizrahi, M.S:
Talia Mizrahi MS, is a Certified Grief Educator and Grief Care Specialist with experience supporting newly bereaved, miscarriage, termination for medical reasons, and survivors of suicide loss. She is trained as an Early Childhood Mental Health Specialist and a Grief Movement Guide and approaches all her work through a trauma-informed lens. Having experienced infertility and loss, Talia knows the power of connection during our most vulnerable moments. She considers it a privilege to support people throughout the grief journey.
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About Shirel Korobkin:
Shirel Korobkin is a certified grief educator, speaker, and community advocate based in Israel. Having experienced stillbirth, miscarriage, and pregnancy after loss herself, she brings both professional expertise and lived experience to supporting those facing infertility and pregnancy loss. Shirel is passionate about helping English-speakers in Israel and abroad find connection, hope, and support during some of life's most difficult moments.
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